![]() Or maybe there were other font houses in greater popularity than Adobe when I was working in prepress (too long ago to remember).It has been said over and over again: The size of Scribus PDF does not mainly depend on the graphics, but on how Scribus places text on page. ![]() I seem to remember reading licenses where you were allowed to bundle the font solely in order for the printer to print your project (and the printer was required to remove the font afterward). I would swear that the license restrictions used to be different though. ![]() But I would also guess that you did not intend that to be interpreted personally by anyone on here (and I'm not taking it that way) - and I'm also positive my irresponsibility is unrelated to the fonts or even to my job as a designer. I would guess that Bitstream and some of the other font houses have similar restrictions. Well I guess I'm an irresponsible designer since the vast majority of my fonts are made by Adobe (and I just confirmed that Adobe fonts can't be sent to a printer). I don't believe that a designer ought to have a font license that is not minimally transferrable to his/her printer - That's just not a responsible designer. It's a good thing there are only 4 or 5 fonts out there. But I guess if they do request the native file, they'll have to supply the fonts themselves. I tend to worry more if the printer requests the native file than if they request a PDF. I've had far fewer problems printing from PDFs than I ever did printing from native files. That seems like a bad idea in my opinion, if they want folks using their fonts! In any case, I send PDFs. But I just checked on Adobe's page and they say it's illegal to do so with their fonts, and so I'll assume other companies feel the same. When I worked in prepress (ages ago), we received fonts with every job that was sent in. You know, I had always thought that it was okay to send fonts to printers solely for printing your own job! The printers certainly instructed you to do so. And yes, I know that "everyone does it." That doesn't make it right or legal. ![]() You'll be hard pressed to find a font license that allows that. Your job as a designer is to supply TO the printer the correct format, or pay to have them make it right. And everyone that sits in front of a computer with Quark or Indesign, or Illustrator doesn't make you a designer. Just because the designer used the wrong program to create the logo is not a reason to blow off a printer. You have to be able to VIEW OUTLINES and see each and every line, text outlines that you want to be on the finished product. Just because it looks like a goose and quacks like a goose, doesn't make it a goose. It can't be a pdf or jpg or anything else brought into illustrator and saved as an illustrator file. When you have to send jobs to do decals (for bottles, glass, vehicles, signs) or t-shirts silk screening, or embroidery (for shirts, caps) you MUST have an illustrator or vector file. Recently I started college (a freshman 40 years after graduating high school) majoring in Graphic Design and Web Development (something I've been doing professionally for 40+ years) I have had to trap, add bleed, change to spot color, fix graphics, replace fonts and finagle every type of file you can imagine. I worked at a commercial printer for over 30 years and when you are doing commercial printing, I can agree with that. Don't use a printer that can't open a file in AI.
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